Is Cushing’s really that rare? Or is it simply undiagnosed?

Here are some thoughts from the Cushing’s Help message boards over the years.

  • Is this really such a rare disease, or more of a rare diagnosis? I mean, I remember when Thyroid issues were taboo and non-existant to regular docs, but now they all see to know something and are recognizing the issues…Seriously, if only 10-15 in every million have Cushings, how on earth did a well visited forum get created???
  • My personal opinion is a rare diagnosis….I see people with acne covered red moon faces, frontal obesity and a hump and just shake my head. If I can talk to them I will mention it but I am super sensitive about my weight and don’t want to insult anyone.
  • I believe it is both. The disease itself is rare, but more and more people are coming forward. I don’t think it is as rare as they think it is in research. It is also rare to find an educated physician for this disease. They are out there, but why aren’t there more? This makes for rare diagnosis. It is not like I can walk down the street and see tons of people with cushings symptoms, but now that I am aware of it I DO see some.
  • i believe until it is not so underdiagnosed we will never know if it is actually rare.
  • I don’t think it’s as rare as doctors think it is. I think the problem is they send people out based on individual symptoms versus looking at them all as a package. For example I got sent to: a psychiatrist for depression, a gastroenterologist for stomach stuff (diarrhea and constipation), an endocrinologist for the hormone/insulin issues, a neurologist for the headaches, an OB/GYN for the “missed periods” and an opthamologist for the vision issues. None of them talk to each other and none of them work together. How could they make a diagnosis of anything other than their specialty based on that? I think until docs take a team approach, it won’t be diagnosed more.
  • We all tend to think it is rarely diagnosed, more than it being a rare disease. Then, you get into the whole idea of, what causes it anyway?

    Who knows? Nobody knows for sure, but say it is from our environmental issues. Maybe it’s from chemicals we are exposed to, and this is how our bodies react. Then if it is environmental, you will start to see more and more people with it because more and more people are exposed to the same environmental issues. Maybe the same thing causes cancer in some people, and pituitary tumors in others. I’m not saying this is the case, I’m just throwing ideas out there. You didn’t hear of Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia 30 yrs. ago either. Maybe in another 30 yrs., Cushing’s will be a disease that most people know about. That would mean more people getting diagnosed, and it would seem that Cushing’s would be on the rise, but awareness is probably the key.

  • What do YOU think?

You Know You’re Chronically Ill When You…

…have a pajama collection.

…call the pharmacist and she recognizes your voice before you tell her what it is.

…are psyched to get a computer table tray for sitting in bed as a gift.

…find out that you can order a three month supply of meds online and you think it’s great.

…share and discuss journal articles with your doctor.

…have an inbox full of emails all from people with your disease or related to your disease.

…get updates from MedScape.

…set up your pills a month ahead of time in pill holders.

…have pill stashes in your car, purse, backpack, etc.

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…have Dr F, Dr L and/or Dr IMMC on speed dial.

…bought a case of sharps containers on eBay.

…have a hospital bag always ready to go.

…have a “Got Hump” tattoo

…share pictures online of your stretch marks like they were badges of honor

…you know why there’s a zebra in my avatar

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Added by Facebook friends:

…know approximately how much your urine output is in mL’s before you go because you’ve measured it so often before.

…When a specialists at a leading university hospital tells you “you are too complicated”.

…when multiple specialists at multiple leading hospitals tell you your case is complicated! (had to add to that!)

…when you only know the day of the week by your pill container!!

…when you get to park in the handicap spots and you’re only 25 years old!!

…you know to tell the person who’s drawing your blood to ice and centrofuge your vile for the ACTH test!!

…you can’t make plans beyond the next hour because you don’t know how sick you’ll feel!!

…when the most excitement you’ve had in a month is your drs appt! And you’re looking forward to your next appt so you can get out of the house!!

…When the people who work in the lab great you like Norm on Cheers when you arrive.

…When you know which vein is the “sweet vein.”

Feel free to add your own! 🙂

Misconceptions About Cushing’s

Cushing’s.  So many people are confused by what it is and what it isn’t.  They may have heard of it because a dog they know has it – or, these days, a horse, ferret, rat.  Seems it’s way more common in lots of animals but not people.

If people have heard of the “animal version” they might say “Yeah, my dog had that and it was easy to diagnose. We just gave him medication…

When we first started having bios on the website, sometimes people would say that they had Cushions Disease.  At first I wondered about that but then it started to make more sense.  If you’ve never heard of the disease,  the doctor mumbles something.  You know you’re a little “fluffy” and cushions makes a lot of sense.

Twice in the last week I’ve seen Cushing’s described as Crushings Disease.  That sort of makes sense, too.  Cushing’s crushes your plans, relationships, credibility, pretty much everything.

Other misconceptions involve Cushing’s symptoms.  Others, especially doctors, will see you gain weight and assume you’re eating too much and a good diet will fix everything.  Or see that you’re depressed (who wouldn’t be!) and offer anti-depressants.

Doctors may say that Cushing’s is too rare, that they’ll never see a case of it in their practice.  But rare doesn’t mean that no one gets it.  Rare doesn’t mean that doctors shouldn’t test for it.

Then, the anatomy just isn’t right.  People say that they have a brain tumor instead of a pituitary tumor.  I just read this on another site: The pituitary gland is on the bottom of the brain… Umm – not exactly ON the bottom of the brain but maybe close enough for people to get an idea.

What sorts of things about Cushing’s/Cushions/Crushings that just weren’t quite right?

Suggesting Cushing’s to Others

This post at http://blog.dustincurtis.com/amateur-diagnosis-a-dilemma reminded me of a topic we often discuss on the message boards.

That post said:

I saw a woman at Starbucks earlier today who almost certainly has Cushing’s Syndrome, a rare-ish debilitating disease that is curable with treatment. It has some very clear physical signs, like a “moon face”, a hump on the back, and central obesity with normal sized extremities. The woman I saw might not know she has it; thousands of people live in misery with undiagnosed Cushing’s for years. It can be fatal.

What is the right thing to do in a situation like this? Do you tap her on the shoulder and kindly tell her your amateur diagnosis, possibly saving her life, or do you let her go on her way, potentially living in misery?

I stared at her for about 10 seconds, thinking about what to do, and then left without saying anything.

So, if you saw someone with Cushing’s,what would *you* do?

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Some early responses from Facebook:
Would you tell a stranger they might have Cushing’s?

  • Yes!!!
  • I did…and it did not go over well. I recommended two ladies see an endo because they were obviously cushie. Both thought I was nuts and didn’t listen to me (that I know of.) One was a patient of my GI and she told me all her symptoms and it was classic Cushing’s-and she didn’t believe me. She told the doc I was nuts. I don’t know if I helped or hindered their quest for a diagnosis. It makes me think twice if I see someone that might have Cushing’s.
  • Well, I think what we have to consider is that it really doesn’t matter what they think of us. At least they have heard the word and maybe, just maybe, will investigate it more.
  • I know Jayne has had a lot of success talking to people she saw in the store. And, of course, Robin made us these wonderful cards. Scroll down http://www.cushings-help.com/documents.htm until you see “Spread The Word! Cushing’s Pocket Reference”

How about it?  Would you give someone a card or talk to them?

Cushie 12-Step Program

I “acquired” this from another site and changed the names to protect the innocent…

As you know many of us Cushies have had or have an addiction to Googling.

I suggest anyone who feels compelled to google symptoms go to the message boards to ask for support instead of typing these or any words such as “buffalo hump” in the google search engine. When this is done all roads lead to one thing…… You Eat Too Much!; You’re Depressed!

So, anyone who is about to hit enter on their computer which feeds their Google addiction…. go to the message boards to ask for help. One of the other Cushies who have achieved “Google sobriety” will help you down of the ledge.

1. Admit for now that you are powerless over your urge to Google.
2. Believe that a power greater than you (that would be other Cushies) can help you off that ledge
3. Decide to turn your “fingers” over to a higher power as you understand it.
4. Make a searching and fearless inventory of what you hope to gain from googling.
5. Admit to yourself and to another human being the exact nature of your addiction to Google.
6. Allow other Cushies to assist you when you are so scared you are thinking about googling symptoms.
7. Humbly ask for Xanax, Klonopin or Cortef in order to calm yourself from googling symptoms
8. Make a list of all the diseases you think you have or have had and survived and have a burning ceremony and then…. take a nap.
9. Cite all Google sites you have searched diseases on and delete them from your favorites/history.
10. When you start thinking….STOP….. do something else, like take an inventory of your test results.
11. Seek through prayer and/or meditation to improve your thought process. Do not travel to “OMG’ or “What if” land (this is a serious suggestion).
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, carry this message to all your Cushie friends and anyone else you know who has a Google addiction.

13. Now I know there isn’t a 13th step, however, if you have noticed you are drinking too much wine or taking too many pills, please remember there are other 12 step programs for that, lol…

So, what about it – what are *your* suggestions to cure Google Addiction?